Attending were Ben, Richard, Erica, Pooky, Lilja Halberd, Eric. Ben demonstrated a visualization of global green house gas emissions. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azbkPvmlEjg
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[7:57] Hack Richard: hi Ben!!!
[7:58] Arkowitz Jonson: hello
[8:00] Hack Richard accepted your inventory offer.
[8:01] Erica Burns: Morning, all.
[8:02] Hackshaven Harford is Online
[8:03] Erica Burns: Richard I just tried to access to the closed blog you set up for the immersive intelligence group but I don't believe I have access
[8:05] Hack Richard:
http://www.ghgprotocol.org/
[8:06] Pooky Amsterdam: Ahoy!
[8:07] Erica Burns: Good morning pooky
[8:08] Erica Burns: I'm sppilling my coffee
[8:08] Erica Burns: :)
[8:08] Arkowitz Jonson: when done simply shout "totem_alldie"
[8:08] Arkowitz Jonson: and then delete the original object
[8:08] Hack Richard: hello lilja
[8:08] Pooky Amsterdam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-KL-lCesE
[8:08] Erica Burns: I saw the video about the midwifery
[8:09] Erica Burns: Wonderful!
[8:09] Erica Burns: I really enjoyed it
[8:09] Hack Richard: Lilja - nice to join us for coffee!
[8:13] Arkowitz Jonson: I think it is good to have both groups
[8:14] Erica Burns: ah i see the slides now
[8:14] Erica Burns: thx
[8:15] Erica Burns: I really like the term immersive intelligence -- I've been wondering why the BI vendors aren't paying attention to this market, and getting involved.
[8:15] Pooky Amsterdam: they dont understand
[8:15] Arkowitz Jonson: I'm in talks with Cognos
[8:16] Erica Burns: Terrific Ben!
[8:16] Anders Wildcat is Online
[8:17] Hack Richard: hello anders
[8:20] Pooky Amsterdam: any other data to go with peaks?
[8:20] Pooky Amsterdam: in other words what also concurred wiht peak in GG?
[8:21] Pooky Amsterdam: yes certainly
[8:21] Erica Burns: May I take snapshots?
[8:21] Pooky Amsterdam: different areas also using electricity
[8:21] Pooky Amsterdam: manufacturing is low in US right now
[8:21] Hack Richard: ok with me!
[8:21] Erica Burns: Thank you re: snapshots
[8:23] Pooky Amsterdam: Ahoy Grey
[8:24] Greyark Hightower: Morning
[8:24] Hackshaven Harford: morning greyark
[8:24] Pooky Amsterdam: where is farming on this?
[8:24] Hackshaven Harford: cool graphing tec hfrom Arkowitz
[8:24] Pooky Amsterdam: its fabulous
[8:24] Arkowitz Jonson: agriculture now highlighted Pooky
[8:25] Hack Richard:
http://www.ghgprotocol.org/
[8:25] Pooky Amsterdam: high in the EU
[8:25] Arkowitz Jonson: yes compared to the us
[8:25] Arkowitz Jonson: yes definitely
[8:25] Pooky Amsterdam: thank you Richard
[8:26] Hack Richard: bye all....
[8:26] Arkowitz Jonson: and be able to answer the question: "how is my organization different or similar to others around the world?"
[8:26] Hackshaven Harford: nice seeing you hack
[8:26] Hack Richard is Offline
[8:26] Pooky Amsterdam: which area of GG has the sharpest increase?
[8:26] Pooky Amsterdam: ohits wonderfl ben
[8:27] Hackshaven Harford: we got prims to spare
[8:27] Pooky Amsterdam: nice dont hear that often
[8:27] Greyark Hightower: Easy to have prims to spare when you own half a continent:)
[8:27] Arkowitz Jonson shouts: totem_allreset
[8:28] Arkowitz Jonson: some kind of lag or something
[8:29] Arkowitz Jonson: I was able to work it but the objects are already created and owned by him
[8:29] Lilja Halberd: What is the back end being used to generate this?
[8:29] Lilja Halberd: is it a data file or a database?
[8:29] Arkowitz Jonson: mysql
[8:29] Lilja Halberd: ok
[8:29] Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:30] Pooky Amsterdam: the graphs were great to see in 3D
[8:30] Arkowitz Jonson: well it won't make another one; that is annoying
[8:30] Hackshaven Harford: paging greyark
[8:30] Erica Burns: Arkowitz did you say that the data re: greenhouse gases is on a Web site?
[8:30] Pooky Amsterdam: should we discuss what other layers we wan tto put over the gg data?
[8:30] Arkowitz Jonson: yes; I got this all off a website
[8:31] Arkowitz Jonson: yes Pooky that is a good idea
[8:31] Pooky Amsterdam: what other numbers will give us soem "good metrics"
[8:31] Erica Burns: Did you import the data into a spreadsheet? Or is it a live feed?
[8:31] Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:33] Arkowitz Jonson: nicht arbeit
[8:33] Arkowitz Jonson: und mein ist sehr schlecht
[8:33] Erica Burns: good point pooky
[8:34] Arkowitz Jonson: ah I know what the problem is
[8:34] Hackshaven Harford is all about instant gratification
[8:34] Hackshaven Harford: dangerous question
[8:34] Arkowitz Jonson: would one of you guys delete this purple sphere, the green one, and all the little prims inside it?
[8:35] Erica Burns: Well, some of us still do that :)
[8:35] Hackshaven Harford: I can return it :)
[8:35] Hackshaven Harford: not delete it
[8:35] Arkowitz Jonson: heh he will get 4000 prims returned to him
[8:35] Hackshaven Harford: test
[8:36] Erica Burns: This is one of the wonderful characteristics of this early stage market: the explorers share a sort of apprenticeship culture and mentality.
[8:36] Jennette Forager is Online
[8:37] Pooky Amsterdam: yes Erica & a shared experience makes for real bonds too
[8:37] Erica Burns: Exactly right Pooky.
[8:37] Pooky Amsterdam: if I could rez back time
[8:37] slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:37] slcicp: rezzing 4000 sheep, boss
[8:38] slcicp: 100 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:38] slcicp: 200 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:38] Pooky Amsterdam: yes
[8:38] slcicp: 300 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:38] Pooky Amsterdam: manufacturing
[8:38] Pooky Amsterdam: raw material processing
[8:39] Pooky Amsterdam: industry growth by secotor
[8:39] slcicp: 400 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:39] Pooky Amsterdam: personla computing
[8:39] Arkowitz Jonson: the question was how do we explain the huge dip in ghg emissions by the russian federation
[8:39] slcicp: 500 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:39] Arkowitz Jonson: Pooky is suggesting other data which may expalin it
[8:39] slcicp: 600 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:40] slcicp: 700 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:40] slcicp: 800 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:40] slcicp: 900 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:41] slcicp: 1000 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:41] Hackshaven Harford: so much for data.gov...
[8:41] Hackshaven Harford: :) nope
[8:41] slcicp: 1100 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:41] Greyark Hightower: It may be the economist in me, but if people stopped doing something I look to see if they simple can't afford to do it anymore.
[8:41] slcicp: 1200 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:41] Arkowitz Jonson: good point Greyark
[8:42] slcicp: 1300 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:42] slcicp: 1400 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:42] Erica Burns: Maybe in a circle around us?
[8:42] Erica Burns: like a "bridge" (situation room)?
[8:42] slcicp: 1500 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:42] Arkowitz Jonson: question now is how to overlay or compare side by side the different datsets
[8:42] slcicp: 1600 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:43] slcicp: 1700 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:43] slcicp: 1800 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:43] Hackshaven Harford: yay open sim :)
[8:43] slcicp: 1900 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:43] Hackshaven Harford: indeed, sorry
[8:44] slcicp: 2000 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:44] slcicp: 2100 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:44] slcicp: 2200 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:44] Greyark Hightower: I've been doing a personal exodus to Champions Online just recently.
[8:45] slcicp: 2300 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:45] slcicp: 2400 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:45] Arkowitz Jonson: phantom prims
[8:45] slcicp: 2500 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:46] slcicp: 2600 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:46] Arkowitz Jonson: overlaying translucent prims
[8:46] slcicp: 2700 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:46] slcicp: 2800 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:46] Pooky Amsterdam: alosphere fo data
[8:47] Pooky Amsterdam: love that!
[8:47] Erica Burns: Having the data be AROUND us really brings home the concept of immersion.
[8:47] slcicp: 2900 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:47] slcicp: 3000 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:47] slcicp: 3100 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:48] Hackshaven Harford: ouch
[8:48] Hackshaven Harford: I like the totem pole idea
[8:48] slcicp: 3200 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:48] slcicp: 3300 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:49] Hackshaven Harford: indeed
[8:49] slcicp: 3400 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:49] slcicp: 3500 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:49] slcicp: 3600 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:50] slcicp: 3700 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:50] Greyark Hightower: I am thinking of Pooky's depth of color as density. And I like density-transparency as good ghg metaphor.
[8:50] slcicp: 3800 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:50] Arkowitz Jonson: now talking about fabricating totem poles representing a company's emissions IRL
[8:50] slcicp: 3900 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:51] Erica Burns: Maybe here's a good place for 3D printers to come in
[8:51] Arkowitz Jonson: yup
[8:51] slcicp: 4000 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:51] slcicp: all 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:51] Erica Burns: Imagine using a 3D Printer to create a physical model of the totem pole, which could be put on a physical conference room table or up on a stage for a presentation.
[8:52] Arkowitz Jonson: hackshaven would you delete this object up here owned by hack?
[8:52] slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:52] cicp_prim: error: not enough cicp prims available
[8:52] Hackshaven Harford: er...
[8:52] Hackshaven Harford: where abouts now?
[8:52] Hackshaven Harford: better?
[8:53] Hackshaven Harford: was there going to be a graph?
[8:53] slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:53] Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:53] slcicp: sending reset to servlet, boss
[8:53] Hackshaven Harford: doh
[8:53] slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:54] Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:54] slcicp: sending reset to servlet, boss
[8:54] slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:56] slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:56] Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:56] slcicp: sending reset to servlet, boss
[8:56] slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:57] Erica Burns: wow
[8:57] Erica Burns: I like watching it grow
[8:58] Erica Burns: Arkowitz: what does this data show?
[8:58] Hackshaven Harford: I remember in physics class we got zero credit without correct labeling
[8:58] Hackshaven Harford: units units units
[8:58] Hackshaven Harford: :)
[8:58] Arkowitz Jonson: lol
[8:58] Arkowitz Jonson: hover over any node to see the units
[8:59] Hackshaven Harford is hovering
[8:59] Hackshaven Harford: you mean click?
[9:00] Erica Burns: I have to hop out of the meeting now, everyone.
[9:00] Arkowitz Jonson: bye Erica
[9:00] Erica Burns: Bye everyone, nice to see you.
[9:00] Anders Wildcat: I have to jump out too, thanks!
[9:01] Arkowitz Jonson: transportation in the US is a huge factor
[9:01] Hackshaven Harford: so the US has some pretty big balls
[9:01] Arkowitz Jonson: lol
[9:01] Arkowitz Jonson: that we do
[9:02] Arkowitz Jonson: bye Pooky
[9:02] Erica Burns is Offline
[9:02] Hackshaven Harford: I don't see a lot of change over time
[9:03] Arkowitz Jonson: nope
[9:03] Arkowitz Jonson: I call this the "futility graph"
[9:03] Arkowitz Jonson: guess what folks: the sealevel WILL be a-risin'
[9:03] Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[9:03] Hackshaven Harford: glad I live in CO
[9:04] Arkowitz Jonson: I'm about 200 feet above sea level right now in themountains of Florida
[9:04] Arkowitz Jonson: precarious
[9:04] Hackshaven Harford: mountains of Florida
[9:04] Hackshaven Harford: best oxy moron I've heard today
[9:04] Hackshaven Harford: Arkowitz, would you mind leaving this out for a bit?
[9:04] Arkowitz Jonson: highest part of Florida... actually Tallahassee was built on seven hills supposedly
[9:04] Arkowitz Jonson: yes I will leave this here
[9:05] Hackshaven Harford: thank you