Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Summary of August 25 Coffee

Attending were Ben, Richard, Erica, Pooky, Lilja Halberd, Eric. Ben demonstrated a visualization of global green house gas emissions. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azbkPvmlEjg
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[7:57]  Hack Richard: hi Ben!!!
[7:58]  Arkowitz Jonson: hello
[8:00]  Hack Richard accepted your inventory offer.
[8:01]  Erica Burns: Morning, all.
[8:02]  Hackshaven Harford is Online
[8:03]  Erica Burns: Richard I just tried to access to the closed blog you set up for the immersive intelligence group but I don't believe I have access
[8:05]  Hack Richard: http://www.ghgprotocol.org/
[8:06]  Pooky Amsterdam: Ahoy!
[8:07]  Erica Burns: Good morning pooky
[8:08]  Erica Burns: I'm sppilling my coffee
[8:08]  Erica Burns: :)
[8:08]  Arkowitz Jonson: when done simply shout "totem_alldie"
[8:08]  Arkowitz Jonson: and then delete the original object
[8:08]  Hack Richard: hello lilja
[8:08]  Pooky Amsterdam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-KL-lCesE
[8:08]  Erica Burns: I saw the video about the midwifery
[8:09]  Erica Burns: Wonderful!
[8:09]  Erica Burns: I really enjoyed it
[8:09]  Hack Richard: Lilja - nice to join us for coffee!
[8:13]  Arkowitz Jonson: I think it is good to have both groups
[8:14]  Erica Burns: ah i see the slides now
[8:14]  Erica Burns: thx
[8:15]  Erica Burns: I really like the term immersive intelligence -- I've been wondering why the BI vendors aren't paying attention to this market, and getting involved.
[8:15]  Pooky Amsterdam: they dont understand
[8:15]  Arkowitz Jonson: I'm in talks with Cognos
[8:16]  Erica Burns: Terrific Ben!
[8:16]  Anders Wildcat is Online
[8:17]  Hack Richard: hello anders
[8:20]  Pooky Amsterdam: any other data to go with peaks?
[8:20]  Pooky Amsterdam: in other words what also concurred wiht peak in GG?
[8:21]  Pooky Amsterdam: yes certainly
[8:21]  Erica Burns: May I take snapshots?
[8:21]  Pooky Amsterdam: different areas also using electricity
[8:21]  Pooky Amsterdam: manufacturing is low in US right now
[8:21]  Hack Richard: ok with me!
[8:21]  Erica Burns: Thank you re: snapshots
[8:23]  Pooky Amsterdam: Ahoy Grey
[8:24]  Greyark Hightower: Morning
[8:24]  Hackshaven Harford: morning greyark
[8:24]  Pooky Amsterdam: where is farming on this?
[8:24]  Hackshaven Harford: cool graphing tec hfrom Arkowitz
[8:24]  Pooky Amsterdam: its fabulous
[8:24]  Arkowitz Jonson: agriculture now highlighted Pooky
[8:25]  Hack Richard: http://www.ghgprotocol.org/
[8:25]  Pooky Amsterdam: high in the EU
[8:25]  Arkowitz Jonson: yes compared to the us
[8:25]  Arkowitz Jonson: yes definitely
[8:25]  Pooky Amsterdam: thank you Richard
[8:26]  Hack Richard: bye all....
[8:26]  Arkowitz Jonson: and be able to answer the question: "how is my organization different or similar to others around the world?"
[8:26]  Hackshaven Harford: nice seeing you hack
[8:26]  Hack Richard is Offline
[8:26]  Pooky Amsterdam: which area of GG has the sharpest increase?
[8:26]  Pooky Amsterdam: ohits wonderfl ben
[8:27]  Hackshaven Harford: we got prims to spare
[8:27]  Pooky Amsterdam: nice dont hear that often
[8:27]  Greyark Hightower: Easy to have prims to spare when you own half a continent:)
[8:27]  Arkowitz Jonson shouts: totem_allreset
[8:28]  Arkowitz Jonson: some kind of lag or something
[8:29]  Arkowitz Jonson: I was able to work it but the objects are already created and owned by him
[8:29]  Lilja Halberd: What is the back end being used to generate this?
[8:29]  Lilja Halberd: is it a data file or a database?
[8:29]  Arkowitz Jonson: mysql
[8:29]  Lilja Halberd: ok
[8:29]  Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:30]  Pooky Amsterdam: the graphs were great to see in 3D
[8:30]  Arkowitz Jonson: well it won't make another one; that is annoying
[8:30]  Hackshaven Harford: paging greyark
[8:30]  Erica Burns: Arkowitz did you say that the data re: greenhouse gases is on a Web site?
[8:30]  Pooky Amsterdam: should we discuss what other layers we wan tto put over the gg data?
[8:30]  Arkowitz Jonson: yes; I got this all off a website
[8:31]  Arkowitz Jonson: yes Pooky that is a good idea
[8:31]  Pooky Amsterdam: what other numbers will give us soem "good metrics"
[8:31]  Erica Burns: Did you import the data into a spreadsheet? Or is it a live feed?
[8:31]  Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:33]  Arkowitz Jonson: nicht arbeit
[8:33]  Arkowitz Jonson: und mein ist sehr schlecht
[8:33]  Erica Burns: good point pooky
[8:34]  Arkowitz Jonson: ah I know what the problem is
[8:34]  Hackshaven Harford is all about instant gratification
[8:34]  Hackshaven Harford: dangerous question
[8:34]  Arkowitz Jonson: would one of you guys delete this purple sphere, the green one, and all the little prims inside it?
[8:35]  Erica Burns: Well, some of us still do that :)
[8:35]  Hackshaven Harford: I can return it :)
[8:35]  Hackshaven Harford: not delete it
[8:35]  Arkowitz Jonson: heh he will get 4000 prims returned to him
[8:35]  Hackshaven Harford: test
[8:36]  Erica Burns: This is one of the wonderful characteristics of this early stage market: the explorers share a sort of apprenticeship culture and mentality.
[8:36]  Jennette Forager is Online
[8:37]  Pooky Amsterdam: yes Erica & a shared experience makes for real bonds too
[8:37]  Erica Burns: Exactly right Pooky.
[8:37]  Pooky Amsterdam: if I could rez back time
[8:37]  slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:37]  slcicp: rezzing 4000 sheep, boss
[8:38]  slcicp: 100 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:38]  slcicp: 200 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:38]  Pooky Amsterdam: yes
[8:38]  slcicp: 300 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:38]  Pooky Amsterdam: manufacturing
[8:38]  Pooky Amsterdam: raw material processing
[8:39]  Pooky Amsterdam: industry growth by secotor
[8:39]  slcicp: 400 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:39]  Pooky Amsterdam: personla computing
[8:39]  Arkowitz Jonson: the question was how do we explain the huge dip in ghg emissions by the russian federation
[8:39]  slcicp: 500 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:39]  Arkowitz Jonson: Pooky is suggesting other data which may expalin it
[8:39]  slcicp: 600 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:40]  slcicp: 700 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:40]  slcicp: 800 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:40]  slcicp: 900 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:41]  slcicp: 1000 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:41]  Hackshaven Harford: so much for data.gov...
[8:41]  Hackshaven Harford: :) nope
[8:41]  slcicp: 1100 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:41]  Greyark Hightower: It may be the economist in me, but if people stopped doing something I look to see if they simple can't afford to do it anymore.
[8:41]  slcicp: 1200 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:41]  Arkowitz Jonson: good point Greyark
[8:42]  slcicp: 1300 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:42]  slcicp: 1400 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:42]  Erica Burns: Maybe in a circle around us?
[8:42]  Erica Burns: like a "bridge" (situation room)?
[8:42]  slcicp: 1500 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:42]  Arkowitz Jonson: question now is how to overlay or compare side by side the different datsets
[8:42]  slcicp: 1600 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:43]  slcicp: 1700 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:43]  slcicp: 1800 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:43]  Hackshaven Harford: yay open sim :)
[8:43]  slcicp: 1900 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:43]  Hackshaven Harford: indeed, sorry
[8:44]  slcicp: 2000 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:44]  slcicp: 2100 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:44]  slcicp: 2200 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:44]  Greyark Hightower: I've been doing a personal exodus to Champions Online just recently.
[8:45]  slcicp: 2300 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:45]  slcicp: 2400 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:45]  Arkowitz Jonson: phantom prims
[8:45]  slcicp: 2500 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:46]  slcicp: 2600 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:46]  Arkowitz Jonson: overlaying translucent prims
[8:46]  slcicp: 2700 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:46]  slcicp: 2800 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:46]  Pooky Amsterdam: alosphere fo data
[8:47]  Pooky Amsterdam: love that!
[8:47]  Erica Burns: Having the data be AROUND us really brings home the concept of immersion.
[8:47]  slcicp: 2900 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:47]  slcicp: 3000 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:47]  slcicp: 3100 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:48]  Hackshaven Harford: ouch
[8:48]  Hackshaven Harford: I like the totem pole idea
[8:48]  slcicp: 3200 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:48]  slcicp: 3300 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:49]  Hackshaven Harford: indeed
[8:49]  slcicp: 3400 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:49]  slcicp: 3500 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:49]  slcicp: 3600 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:50]  slcicp: 3700 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:50]  Greyark Hightower: I am thinking of Pooky's depth of color as density. And I like density-transparency as good ghg metaphor.
[8:50]  slcicp: 3800 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:50]  Arkowitz Jonson: now talking about fabricating totem poles representing a company's emissions IRL
[8:50]  slcicp: 3900 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:51]  Erica Burns: Maybe here's a good place for 3D printers to come in
[8:51]  Arkowitz Jonson: yup
[8:51]  slcicp: 4000 of 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:51]  slcicp: all 4000 sheep rezzed, boss
[8:51]  Erica Burns: Imagine using a 3D Printer to create a physical model of the totem pole, which could be put on a physical conference room table or up on a stage for a presentation.
[8:52]  Arkowitz Jonson: hackshaven would you delete this object up here owned by hack?
[8:52]  slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:52]  cicp_prim: error: not enough cicp prims available
[8:52]  Hackshaven Harford: er...
[8:52]  Hackshaven Harford: where abouts now?
[8:52]  Hackshaven Harford: better?
[8:53]  Hackshaven Harford: was there going to be a graph?
[8:53]  slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:53]  Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:53]  slcicp: sending reset to servlet, boss
[8:53]  Hackshaven Harford: doh
[8:53]  slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:54]  Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:54]  slcicp: sending reset to servlet, boss
[8:54]  slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:56]  slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:56]  Arkowitz Jonson: totem_allreset
[8:56]  slcicp: sending reset to servlet, boss
[8:56]  slcicp: checking for sheep...
[8:57]  Erica Burns: wow
[8:57]  Erica Burns: I like watching it grow
[8:58]  Erica Burns: Arkowitz: what does this data show?
[8:58]  Hackshaven Harford: I remember in physics class we got zero credit without correct labeling
[8:58]  Hackshaven Harford: units units units
[8:58]  Hackshaven Harford: :)
[8:58]  Arkowitz Jonson: lol
[8:58]  Arkowitz Jonson: hover over any node to see the units
[8:59]  Hackshaven Harford is hovering
[8:59]  Hackshaven Harford: you mean click?
[9:00]  Erica Burns: I have to hop out of the meeting now, everyone.
[9:00]  Arkowitz Jonson: bye Erica
[9:00]  Erica Burns: Bye everyone, nice to see you.
[9:00]  Anders Wildcat: I have to jump out too, thanks!
[9:01]  Arkowitz Jonson: transportation in the US is a huge factor
[9:01]  Hackshaven Harford: so the US has some pretty big balls
[9:01]  Arkowitz Jonson: lol
[9:01]  Arkowitz Jonson: that we do
[9:02]  Arkowitz Jonson: bye Pooky
[9:02]  Erica Burns is Offline
[9:02]  Hackshaven Harford: I don't see a lot of change over time
[9:03]  Arkowitz Jonson: nope
[9:03]  Arkowitz Jonson: I call this the "futility graph"
[9:03]  Arkowitz Jonson: guess what folks: the sealevel WILL be a-risin'
[9:03]  Hackshaven Harford: hehe
[9:03]  Hackshaven Harford: glad I live in CO
[9:04]  Arkowitz Jonson: I'm about 200 feet above sea level right now in themountains of Florida
[9:04]  Arkowitz Jonson: precarious
[9:04]  Hackshaven Harford: mountains of Florida
[9:04]  Hackshaven Harford: best oxy moron I've heard today
[9:04]  Hackshaven Harford: Arkowitz, would you mind leaving this out for a bit?
[9:04]  Arkowitz Jonson: highest part of Florida... actually Tallahassee was built on seven hills supposedly
[9:04]  Arkowitz Jonson: yes I will leave this here
[9:05]  Hackshaven Harford: thank you

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